Ian Rivers returned as guest to discuss cyber-bullying with us. It was a fascinating hour.
We started with cyber-bullying shifting from being predominantly in instant messages (more private) to chat-rooms, emails, and social media so more public. We looked into behaviour and manners we apply in daily life. But somehow, on the Internet they can be dropped fairly quick. Setting up fake accounts or profiles enables those who want to harass others to do so without revealing their identity.
We looked into cases such as Megan Meier‘s and noted that cyber-bullying is 24/7, across country lines and mostly invisible. The case of Phoebe Prince comes to mind where after Phoebe’s death, some thought is was necessary to place rude comments on her FB memorial page.
Ian noted that using the “Freedom of Speech” argument to defend your bullying words might work in the USA but not at all in the UK and referred to UK law.
We discussed “netiquette” and “netnannies” before realizing the hour was gone.
If you have any questions for Ian, post them below in the comment box and I will alert Ian. The verbatim thread is below. And of course, i will ask Ian to return for another chat!
Cheers
| Vidocq_CC | Welcome to cclivechat, folks. Today our guest is @ian_rivers and he will discuss cyber-bullying with us. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 15:59:57 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Cyber-bullying is a very difficult subject and while preparing for it, I came across more and more issues I wish to bring up. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:00:30 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Thank you #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:00:44 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | But first, thank you Ian for doing this for us! How are you? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:00:52 +0000 |
| roserandel | RT @Vidocq_CC: Welcome to cclivechat, folks. Today our guest is @ian_rivers and he will discuss cyber-bullying with us. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:00:52 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | ok #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:01:11 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I'm good thanks, busy as ever but beter buy than twiddling my thumbs #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:01:32 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Sorry awful typing again #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:02:26 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers That is always good to hear. When I went over my notes, I noticed most bullying came from texting a few years ago. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:02:51 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Is that still the case or does more bullying now come from chatrooms or email? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:03:22 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Yes early 2000s it was IRC, SMS texting and email. Of course as technology advances so to do the methods of intimidation #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:04:00 +0000 |
| GOVManslaughter | RT @ian_rivers: its a forum for a conversation that focuses on a particualr issue. @Vidocq_CC runs them regularly #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:04:09 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | We see a lot more issues on social networking sites today because that is the primary venue for online communication. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:04:55 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | But email and text messaging, video messaging etc still are around #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:05:16 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Is that what some call the "eMuscle" effect? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:05:38 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | And the laws is rapidly catching up this these new media and also how such media are being used #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:05:38 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | whereas traditional forms of bullying involved a protagonist and a victim that is not necesarrily the case any more #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:06:31 +0000 |
| bischofield | @ian_rivers Is it wise to reply to bullies or just ignore? #cclivechat Hi Vid 😉 | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:07:19 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | it could be described as such - I quite like the name "e-muscle effect" #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:07:46 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @bischofield Hi Brenda! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:07:58 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | The rule from one of our national centres is "don't feed a troll" - it is possible to report, block and ignore #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:08:34 +0000 |
| ChrisNewman1972 | RT @ian_rivers: The rule from one of our national centres is "don't feed a troll" - it is possible to report, block and ignore #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:09:03 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers I'd like to expand a little about the blur of social&entertainment norms that cause folks to behave different online #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:09:30 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Have you seen a decline in manners in real life the more folks use social media? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:10:18 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Ok yes its an interesting point, the meak and mild can become monsters online #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:10:33 +0000 |
| roserandel | RT @ian_rivers: The rule from one of our national centres is "don't feed a troll" - it is possible to report, block and ignore #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:10:34 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | My starting point is we don;t teach social skills either at home or at school #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:11:14 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Exactly, and it is easy to set up a fake profile from behind which one can bully another! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:11:27 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Also when the internet started and we got email there used to be this thing called "netiquette" #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:11:42 +0000 |
| roserandel | RT @ian_rivers: Ok yes its an interesting point, the meak and mild can become monsters online #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:12:02 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Today we are given computers, mobile/cellphones and told "off you go" #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:12:12 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Yes ironically hiding behind a fake profile is illegal #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:12:27 +0000 |
| roserandel | RT @ian_rivers: Also when the internet started and we got email there used to be this thing called "netiquette" #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:12:35 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | But we do ned to get people to realise tat there are consequences to online actions #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:13:13 +0000 |
| roserandel | RT @ian_rivers: Yes ironically hiding behind a fake profile is illegal #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:13:21 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Correct, but it can take a while before one is found out. In the meantime, the damage to another is done. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:13:30 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Those consequences and be severe. In the UK for example S127 of the Comms Act 2003 is increasingly being used #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:13:58 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers The case of Megan Meier comes to mind now. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:14:01 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Megan Meier's case http://t.co/Qu7vniNu #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:14:16 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Yes it is but with police intervention an IP address can be found quickly #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:14:17 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | S 127 http://t.co/yuyWLIcd #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:14:42 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Megan's case was an early one and certainly because the culrpit was a mother it did make us thing about things differently #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:15:22 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Indeed, hers was probably the first cyber-bullying verdict too. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:16:16 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | in the US states now have very strict cyberbullying laws 1/2 #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:16:30 +0000 |
| roserandel | What group of people do the most bulling, children, young teens, Adults or driver's? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:16:35 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | http://t.co/An9c9Bvm #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:16:36 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | in the Megan Meier case ofcourse on appeal the judge found the perpetrator Lori Drew innocent #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:17:00 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers When you gather your research, how often do you hear a bully defend themselves with "freedom of speech?" #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:17:09 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | We see a lot of bullying among young people in secondary school primarily because they don't know how to use cell phones #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:17:36 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Freedom of speech works for the US it doesn't for the UK #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:17:56 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Liam Stacey was jailed for 56 days for tweting racist comments about a footballer who collapsed #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:18:46 +0000 |
| bischofield | @ian_rivers I don't think Lori Drew would be found innocent here in UK, if tried now. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:19:42 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | We have to be very careful what we say via electronic communication and very careful about how we present ourselves #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:19:46 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Does the bullying get less the older the teens get? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:19:48 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | in the Liam Stacey case in the UK, he did not directly tweet to the victim but upset a number of others who saw the tweets #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:20:20 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | There is some evidnce to suggest that at the 16-18 age group it does, but we don't think it is so in the early teens #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:20:54 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | in terms of cyberbullying we don;t know because we don't as yet have stable measures of it #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:21:15 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | However we also have to recognise that all of us can make mistakes in e-communication, so bullying has to be a persistent thing #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:22:07 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers What percentage of cyber-bullying involves threats of sexual attacks? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:22:17 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Good question, David Finkelhor and his colleagues has shown that there is a lot of sexually aggresive coercion online #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:23:20 +0000 |
| miriamsaid | RT @Vidocq_CC: Megan Meier's case http://t.co/Qu7vniNu #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:23:30 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | in my new book, I look at the data from 3 studies, and while there is a decline over time it still goes on. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:23:53 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @miriamsaid Hi Miriam! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:24:09 +0000 |
| roserandel | RT @Vidocq_CC: @ian_rivers What percentage of cyber-bullying involves threats of sexual attacks? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:24:41 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Are there any particular trends as to age, location, etc? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:24:53 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Looing at the data from David Finkelhor and colleagues its aboyt 2% for boys but between 4-7% for girls #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:25:20 +0000 |
| miriamsaid | @Vidocq_CC Hi...I'm a bit busy wiv legal stuffs...flitting on & off Twitter...will try to joing chat as soon as I can..*Mwah*... #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:25:45 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Early secondary school seems to be a flashpoint for all school the change between elementary/middle and high school #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:26:01 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @miriamsaid No problem, Lil' Penguin! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:26:27 +0000 |
| roserandel | RT @ian_rivers: Looing at the data from David Finkelhor and colleagues its aboyt 2% for boys but between 4-7% for girls #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:26:44 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | However without stable measures we do not know. One study shows a link between internet and traditional forms of bullying #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:26:52 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Pls elaborate more on that transitional time for kids. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:27:07 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | my study shows, very low rates of persisten bullying across 5 years #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:27:40 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | For us in the UK, the transiiton between primary and secondary is the point too where parents give their kids cell/mobile phones #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:28:09 +0000 |
| bischofield | Following the recent UK convictions, I think things may be better here than in USA. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:28:21 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Also there is much more focus on and access to technology in high school so email etc becomes much more readily available #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:28:42 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Similarly homework is now reliant upon kids being online, and of course they play online games and lives their worlds online #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:29:07 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Similarly homework is now reliant upon kids being online, and of course they play online games and lives their worlds online #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:29:07 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | We see this much more in teenagers than young kids livbing thier lives online #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:29:36 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | For us oldies the worlds might be separate but for others, especially the young, they are much more integrated #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:29:58 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I am not always happy with bullying even cyberbullying resulting in convictions, I believe in restorative justice #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:30:46 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Yes, to me it is a completely separate world! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:30:51 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | People should also, when their behaviour is called into check, have the opportunity to atone and say sorry. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:31:13 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers What would you like to see done in schools to get back to a netiquette? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:31:30 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Soical networks and favulous and wonderful opportunities for learning (such as this debate) but we have to use them responsibly #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:32:04 +0000 |
| miriamsaid | Bullying is a learned form of control & manipulation that is active across all ages & all comms platforms #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:32:11 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | A piece of advice I was given, quite recently was never write an email in haste if you are upset - leave it for 24 hours #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:32:39 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | We don;t really know the extent of cyberbullying in adulthood. But even as adults we have to learn to write responsibly online #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:33:13 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers That is good advice! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:33:37 +0000 |
| miriamsaid | Bullying mediation should be active in all schools & on all online forums #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:33:47 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | its important that netiquette includes responding to hurtful/distressing emails, learning to block or junk, and also report #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:34:02 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Is there any research done into cyber-bullying of senior citizens? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:34:09 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Alas even I fire off an email in haste occasionally, but keep learning #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:34:26 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Yes mediation is helpful but of course mediation usually occurs after an event what about preventative measures? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:34:54 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Not yet, but I do wonder if my parents fully understand the world they are getting into #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:35:20 +0000 |
| miriamsaid | The best advice I ever had with regards to online bullying was...Don't feed the trolls... #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:35:39 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | i have seen primary school children become anti-bullying ambassadors, learning how to give and receive compliments #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:36:00 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Learning how to protect one another, learning how to respectfully disagree #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:36:21 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Agreed, I read those blurbs in the paper where an older person felt pressured to give information. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:36:30 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | If 6 year olds can do surely we can.... #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:36:33 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | All of the behaviours are learned, particualrly online behaviours, and can be unlearned #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:37:02 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | No one should be used or abused online, of course the law is problematic sometimes with respect to this #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:38:30 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Agreed, and teach kids how to compromise. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:38:33 +0000 |
| bischofield | RT @miriamsaid: The best advice I ever had with regards to online bullying was...Don't feed the trolls... #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:38:54 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | in the Megan Meier case the location of the servers determined the jurisdiction for the trail of Lori Drew as I recall #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:39:00 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | So we may not always be safe in assuming that because our state or country doesn't have a law that we are safe #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:39:53 +0000 |
| bischofield | There has always been bullying, but now the opportunity to do it anonymously, they do what they otherwise would not. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:40:57 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | BTW, "don't fed the trolls" comes from a former colleague of mine Dr Emma Short #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:41:10 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Ah but anonymity is a facade, IP addresses and online feeds can be traced easily #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:41:46 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Yes, and she violated the terms of service by her behaviour. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:41:48 +0000 |
| miriamsaid | Do people believe that the loss of good manners, respect & internal awareness have lead to online bullying #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:41:56 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | When I worked with lothian and Borders Police I saw just how this is done, its a bit of paperwork to get a court order #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:42:27 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Miriamsaid when I asked headteachers at a recent workshop, it was the one thing they agreed upon, a few social skills work #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:43:16 +0000 |
| GaryMcLachlan | Assumption of 'loss' there - the human condition does not change because technology advances #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:43:22 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers So how afraid should parents be when their kids start to use the web and can they be left alone while surfing? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:43:59 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @GaryMcLachlan Hi Gary! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:44:08 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | But Gary the effects are far more intrusive than school bullying, cyberbullyign can be 24/7 and locationless #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:44:32 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I think parents and their kids need to set rules, but remember children can be exposed to all sorts of things on the web #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:45:22 +0000 |
| GaryMcLachlan | The effect, yes - what we're seeing is a classless state (social media) that is not constrained in terms of access #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:45:22 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | 15min warning, folks! If you have questions re cyber-bullying for @ian_rivers, now is your chance! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:45:29 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | RT @ian_rivers: But Gary the effects are far more intrusive than school bullying, cyberbullyign can be 24/7 and locationless #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:45:55 +0000 |
| miriamsaid | Has a large percebntage of online users become so de-sensitised to bullying because it's so widespread online #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:46:27 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers and the cell phones and even those Nintendo thingy now have wifi! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:46:29 +0000 |
| GaryMcLachlan | It's different to 'real world' in that access is more universal; therefore customary norms are broader and less 'middle class' #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:46:29 +0000 |
| roserandel | RT @Vidocq_CC: 15min warning, folks! If you have questions re cyber-bullying for @ian_rivers, now is your chance! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:46:32 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Parents and kids need to think about how online time is used. I don;t have answers but netnannies are often useless #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:46:53 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Yes and some bullying occurs in online gaming environments #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:47:12 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | if you kill a young person's avatar in an online game, just think what does it do to that young person? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:47:50 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers I love that term: netnannies! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:48:02 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | it might be part of the game but do we really understand the way young people live offline-online? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:48:26 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers I heard parents complain about Sims games where worlds can be made and where gamers can link to each other's world. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:48:42 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers I think a young person takes it very personal. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:49:16 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | how much invetment do we put in our online lives....a lot I now imagine because we can be hurt by online interactions #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:49:25 +0000 |
| GaryMcLachlan | Depends on the circumstances in games - someone letting 'the team' down is like an intense sport scenario #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:49:34 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Yes, alternate worlds and investment in those worlds is real - rememebr at the height of the financial crisis some online...1/2 #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:50:01 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | ....2/2 currenetly was worth more than "real" currency #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:50:20 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @GaryMcLachlan Right, but depending on age it is taken personal or seen as disloyalty to the team as a whole #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:50:47 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Gary is right there, there are links to sport and I am wodnering how if we are prepared for the aftermath of the olympics #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:51:09 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | But maybe that's a topic for another day #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:51:27 +0000 |
| GaryMcLachlan | Contextual too - some gaming scenarios carry less investiture - something like Warcraft can be both addictive and immersive #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:51:49 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Apologies for my awful typing #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:51:58 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers We are not prepared for the aftermath of the olympics. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:52:02 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Maybe, we have not touched on so much! LOL, can you come back again? And again? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:52:34 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers You are not here to type perfectly. You are here for the discussion! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:52:55 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I think a lot of bullying is down to the fear of losing "resource" be it monetary, status, power, authority #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:53:06 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers We still need to cover that link to domestic violence ... status! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:53:56 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Bullies perceive they have more power the more time/space they command of others' time, that is why blocking is so important #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:54:25 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers And control of the other human being. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:54:30 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | domestic violence or IPV is a tough one, there is a paper out on the link between sexual bullying and IPV #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:55:09 +0000 |
| arthusandnico | RT @ian_rivers: I think a lot of bullying is down to the fear of losing "resource" be it monetary, status, power, authority #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:55:16 +0000 |
| miriamsaid | Do statistics show that bullies are often found to be being bullied themselves by either a family or close peer contact? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:55:25 +0000 |
| roserandel | RT @ian_rivers: I think a lot of bullying is down to the fear of losing "resource" be it monetary, status, power, authority #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:55:29 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Yes, the desire to have an effect upon another person's is addictive. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:55:39 +0000 |
| roserandel | RT @Vidocq_CC: @ian_rivers We still need to cover that link to domestic violence ... status! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:55:49 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Jaana Juvonen has also shown that bullies often have very high estimations of their own ability, esteem #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:56:36 +0000 |
| bischofield | Also, lack of those resources.> RT monetary, status. power, authority. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:56:47 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Yes I agree bischofield and avarice is also a driver....to see that resource #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:57:35 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | But also political anger at a system that keep you out is also a resource, and once let in, that anger doesn't necessarly go #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:58:19 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | And all of this can be played out online as well as face-to-face. It's a big world and we give children access to it unprepared #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:59:12 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers That is another interesting topic! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 16:59:24 +0000 |
| GaryMcLachlan | Another issue of boundary crossing - more intergenerational contact online than usually presents itself in 'reality' #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:00:09 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | This hour flew by again. Thank you, Ian, for being here and for a great discussion! #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:00:20 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | If anyone has questions for @ian_rivers re cyber-bullying, just post them underneath the recap on DCC later on. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:00:52 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Yes gary true and David Finkelor's work is vry relevant there #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:00:59 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | My pleasure I thoroughly enjoyed it.... #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:01:28 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Oh can you remind me if there are any questions to answer? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:01:46 +0000 |
| miriamsaid | I'd like to thank Ian for sharing his wisdom with us in todays chat..He MUST come back and tell us more...:) What a star. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:02:06 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Is this David? http://t.co/o2R7bO0A #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:02:33 +0000 |
| GOVManslaughter | RT @ian_rivers: Oh can you remind me if there are any questions to answer? #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:02:34 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Yes, if questions pop up i will email you, Ian. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:02:51 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Thank you so much, it is very kind of you to say so #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:02:54 +0000 |
| GOVManslaughter | RT @Vidocq_CC: @ian_rivers Yes, if questions pop up i will email you, Ian. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:03:21 +0000 |
| bischofield | Thank you @ian_rivers and @Vidocq_CC enjoyable #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:03:37 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Thank you, a great pleasure to talk to you all... #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:03:38 +0000 |
| GaryMcLachlan | 🙂 #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:04:02 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Bye for now #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:04:54 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Recap later on DCC, folks! Thanks again, Ian, we need to schedule you for another chat after the summer. #cclivechat | Fri, 11 May 2012 17:05:04 +0000 |