Ian Rivers continued his series on cyber-bullying today in #cclivechat. Our aim today was to dig further into cyber-bullying. We ended up exploring quite a few definitions, perceptions, and perimeters. For example, if people use their true identity online will they be more aware of their own behaviour online? If they decide to use a pseudonym will that alter their behaviour? If so, are they aware they behave so much differently online that their bullying is unintentional but still hurtful, of course.
An interesting point Ian raised was: if he answers my questions and thus interacts with me on Twitter, does he also interact with my followers? Can an answer he gives to me be perceived by my followers as hurtful? Correct me here if I am wrong, Ian.
I think the key lies in how the anonymous character interacts with others. The use of a pseudonym does not need to be a negative move. As was pointed out by Highlandlawyer, not everyone has a boss who understands online activities if they differ from daily work. This might cause people to use a pseudonym so they can keep doing both. Highlandlawyer also made the point that we should separate those anons who are continuous from those who uses many anon accounts in a throwaways fashion.
A great article to read in relation to this chat is Bully and victim; busting the myths by Ian Rivers. He discussed the status that a bully might perceive if they attack a subject that the community has labelled “acceptable to ridicule.” Also, the signals that a community or a role model sends determines where people draw the lines. If a school spends all their funds on sporting activities it sends a message that those who are not sporty or who’d prefer to spend those funds on arts & music, do not conform. And if you don’t conform, the results is that you are not included making some people an easy target.
Ian and I bounced off so many thoughts that the hour was gone before we realized it. And you know what that means, he has to come back again! Ian will be on the panel of the American Psychological Association Annual Convention in Orlando, FL. And a big change that will allow Ian to explore this subject even further is going back to research after having been in administration. I look forward to reading new articles and to hear what happened at the convention.
If you have any questions for Ian please place them in the comment box below this post and I will alert Ian.
Next week’s #cclivechat concentrates on updates in several cold cases.
The verbatim thread from today is below.
Cheers, V
| Vidocq_CC | It is noon and that means it is time for another chat. My guest today is @Ian_Rivers who returns to discuss cyber-bullying. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:00:25 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Thank you #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:00:56 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Thanks @Ian)Rivers for your time and dedication to stop bullying. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:01:01 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | You were on an exciting trip since the last chat, right? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:01:34 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I wish I could do more, and hopefully over the next year will be able to #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:01:42 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I wanted to start by linking this chat to an article https://t.co/anuSPDcf #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:02:28 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers What is going to change in the next year? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:02:39 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Yup I was speaking about bullying and new media in Australia, and presented a new model of understanding bullying/cyberbullying #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:03:07 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I stop being an administrator and go back to being a research professor #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:03:27 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers I can post it in the recap later on! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:03:30 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Ok great... #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:04:11 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Love to hear more about Australia. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:04:19 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers That is a big change! I sense you welcome it! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:04:52 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | It was a conference held by @alannahmadeline and brought together researchers, advocates, teachers and govt #NCAB12 #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:05:54 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | it is a useful change because I want to understand more the mindset of the cyberbully #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:06:53 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I wonder whether we really understand how many people observe our behaviour online. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:07:46 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Considering that you can hide behind an avatar I think most believe nobody will notice and that nobody will observe. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:09:05 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | For example as I answer questions here, am I answering your questions @Vidocq_CC & am I considering the your followers too? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:09:19 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers That is my expectation, yes. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:10:20 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | If your expectation is that I answer your questions, might the response tailored to you not offend others? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:11:37 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Do you believe that people watch others behaviour more if they use their real name instead of a pseudonym? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:12:05 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers It could but they are free to jump in and ask you politely for an explanation. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:12:44 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I think a name and a face (even though it may not be a real name and a person's true face) adds credibility #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:13:41 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | #cclivechat with @Ian_Rivers on cyberbullying ties in with online behaviour of those who ID themselves and those anonymous on the web. | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:14:02 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | What we have seen in the UK is a readiness to jump and to judge, and to be abusive because it is disembodied. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:14:54 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers I do watch people's behaviour by scanning their stream (and in forums) and how they respond to others. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:15:12 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | We have still to fully understand how a person changes online; they can become something they are not in the physical world #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:15:43 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers A fave & name do add to the personality but it is the interaction w/others that gets them credibility imho. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:15:53 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Some researchers see this as liberating and supportive, others see it as destructive #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:16:49 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Correct, and I think that is an appealing element! You can be your complete opposite online. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:17:07 +0000 |
| msashton_writer | RT @ian_rivers: I wonder whether we really understand how many people observe our behaviour online. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:17:37 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers It would be destructive if you lose touch with reality and start to live in the virtual world. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:18:16 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Considered responses that are not abusive liberate discussion and do not close it down #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:18:18 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @msashton_writer Hi Marguerite! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:18:25 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers I think destruction can happen if you cut back on living and only feel alive online. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:18:53 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | One of the things I've learned from primary/elementary school kids is that we have to learn how to interact respectfully #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:19:11 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | I'm here @Vidocq_CC #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:20:09 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Interestingly, some research from Cambridge U suggests that young people who face difficulties in the physical environment....1 #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:20:09 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Agreed, many elementary school lessons about respect and honesty go out the window when we get older. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:20:35 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ColdCaseSquad Hi Joe! Awesome! We are discussing online behaviour and respectful treatment of others online. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:21:10 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | ....2 can learn social skills & learn to interact with others online, particularly those who find it difficult to join groups #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:21:28 +0000 |
| msashton_writer | @ian_rivers ~ Is cyberbullying more common than we realize? #cclivechat. | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:21:41 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I think it depends on what we define as cyberbullying #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:22:22 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Do you think it helps them come out of their shell? Overcome being shy? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:22:32 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Researchers use different definitions, different time scales and ask different questions about different media #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:22:46 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | @Vidocq_CC oh I think we have all been a victim of that-if not yet it will #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:23:03 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I've reported rates as low as 4% and see rates as high as 73% #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:23:09 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I'm not sure about shyness; I know early research at UT Austin showed that online support groups for 'hidden' groups...1 #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:24:01 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Are there any model guides in the UK or even worldwide for researchers? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:24:06 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | ...2 became physical support groups that met in coffee shops eventually #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:24:21 +0000 |
| HighlandLawyer | @Vidocq_CC Not if the pseudonym is used for a continual "persona" rather than for throwaway anonymous use #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:24:58 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | there is a brand new book coming out (published by Routledge) on researching cyberbullying #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:24:59 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Bauman, S., Cross, D., & Walker, J. (Eds.). Principles of Cyberbullying Research: Definitions, Measures, & Methods. Routledge. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:26:01 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | A continued persona is an exception, but of course what we also see is that some people see being online as so removed..1 #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:27:19 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Would love to hear your take on that book! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:27:40 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | ...2 from reality that they do not consider anything the write or post to be bullying or even illegal #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:27:52 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | As I wrote the chapter on measurement...it is of course fabulous! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:28:20 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers I actually like that idea and some "tweet-ups" work that way! Folks meer in real life. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:28:24 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | @Ohsolazysusan Yes it has been how are you doing #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:28:30 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers That is an excellent point! So, removed form reality, can they see it as finstion and unintentionally hurt others? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:29:48 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | In the end it is important that we better understand how people use technology and the psychology of social media use #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:30:00 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Gimme a link so we can include that chapter as well in the recap! 😀 #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:30:15 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Have you considered a poll on Twitter? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:31:38 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | As the book isn't out just yet, I'll have to check with the editors. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:31:41 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @Ohsolazysusan @ColdCaseSquad Yes, how are you? Bit busy right now with #cclivechat. | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:32:10 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I have considered doing a number of things to beter understand how people use Twitter, but my university has a strict policy #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:32:33 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | No data can be collected (of any type) without appropriate ethical (IRB) approval... #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:32:56 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @HighlandLawyer I see your point: if someone is consistent in behaviour but just uses a pseudo, right? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:33:04 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I hope in the next year to interview some twitter users about how they engage with this medium...I have my own ideas...1 #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:33:32 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers OK, just let me know when it is appropriate and we can always dedicate a post to it. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:33:35 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | And of course some people need to have pseudos due to work restrictions #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:34:27 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Are you allowed to invite via Twitter and then to follow up with the questions by email? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:34:29 +0000 |
| HighlandLawyer | @ian_rivers Need to keep distinction between cyberbullying & trolling - mainstream media confusing the two #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:34:55 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | ...2 about how my own mind works as I respond and chat.... #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:34:57 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | The rule is any data.... #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:35:20 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Right, we do not all have employers who understand our passion for certain things. When I worked as a corporate 1/2 #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:36:35 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Cyberbullying is persistent, repeated victimization #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:36:46 +0000 |
| HighlandLawyer | @ian_rivers True - the term IRL is a longstanding proof people forget cyberinteractions with are with people In Real Life too #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:36:47 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers lawyer my involvement with Amnesty International was not appreciated, I was asked if I was "anti-establishment." 2/2 #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:37:18 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Trolling is less well defined and certainly can take many forms. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:37:49 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @HighlandLawyer Agreed, that is why I do not treat folks different online because one day, I may want to meet them IRL! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:38:04 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | We are encouraged to use social media to promote, but not necessarily question the status quo #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:38:45 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Can you give me some more background on trolling? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:38:56 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Trolling was initially linked to the posting of hurtful or abusive comments on webapges that commemorate others #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:40:18 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers So can bullying happen when someone tries to change the status quo while using SM? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:40:38 +0000 |
| HighlandLawyer | @Vidocq_CC Yes,to separate online activities from eg work, or avoid concentrating on who they are if that distract from content #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:40:50 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | However, itis increasingly used to refer to individuals who use abusive or personal comments about those with whom they diasgree #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:41:03 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I think social media is a powerful force for change, look at the wikileaks debacle. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:41:42 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @HighlandLawyer That is the reason why I am "Nic Vidocq." #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:42:31 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | But bullying can happen through social media such a facebook....part of our debate in acadmeica is what coults as "repeated" #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:42:33 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | is a repeated actin, a number of posts or is it one post viewed by a number of others? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:42:53 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | that should have said "what counts as rpeated" - my typing stinks #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:43:21 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Good point, how to measure? And what is seen as more hurtful: many posts or many viewers? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:43:56 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers My grammar stinks! And my spelling! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:44:19 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | It predominant view seems to be many viewers #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:44:52 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | So one post can be considered 'repeated' if viewed by multiple others. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:45:29 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers But the number of posts that get picked up with SEO cause far more people to see those posts and 1 post w/many vws #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:46:18 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | True, and I think we face the issue of not really understanding social media and how it works psychologically and sociologically #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:47:26 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | and much of the research has focused on the victim, and now we need to better understand the intentionality of posts...1 #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:48:13 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers How do plan to research this? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:48:29 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | ...2 rather than their effect - though we must always acknowledge the hurt caused by certain posts #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:48:40 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Firstly, to bettere understand the 'mindset' of the SM user...as I said..I'm respond ing to your question...1 #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:49:59 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Intention is key but do not forget the ID of post's author. Depending on ID/blog their effect can be bigger/smaller. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:50:11 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | ...2 do I always consider that others are watching? Do I need to consider the public nature of the comments? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:50:29 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | ...3 Am I responsible for the comments I make online, and how far does that responsibility go? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:51:08 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | And of course there is the issue of power..... #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:51:25 +0000 |
| iamsarahlever | Cyber bullying chat going on with the fabulous professor @ian_rivers #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:51:37 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers And ... what I might do with your answers e.g. post them as a verbatim thread for even more people to see. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:52:03 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Does a perpetrator of cyberbullying or trolling feel or belive they have some entitlement to abuse others? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:52:07 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @iamsarahlever You bet, these are some of my favourite chats! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:52:38 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers It can be an extention of being anon online, forming a new character, adopting it and acting like it more and more. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:53:22 +0000 |
| HighlandLawyer | @ian_rivers As a purely legal matter, answer to that is definite "Yes" - question how many people realise that #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:53:28 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | my new model of understanding bullying focuses on issues of entitlement, status and expectations and outcomes #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:54:18 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I am increasingly working from the perspective of the perpetrator: where does thier entitlement come from? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:55:22 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | is entitlement economic, social, political, religious or moral power? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:55:49 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers And status is subjective, how do you measure status? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:55:53 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | The issue of status is central. Bullies always believe their status is either under threat or is being eroded... #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:56:21 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | We've begun to look at clinical indices (incl. paranoia), and asked bullies why they bully others #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:56:53 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Good question, what is entitlement based on and even if you are entitled, should you act on it? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:57:12 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | And then there are issues around expectations and outcomes #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:57:53 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Entitlement is a really interesting one as it can be applied to institutions versus individuals, managers against workers #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:58:35 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers But who or what gave the bully his/her status? If that was selfmade, we need to explore narcissism as well #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:58:44 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | The idea of expectations and outcomes comes from the online abuse sports stars receive if they miss a goal #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:59:05 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Right, non-profit versus commercial and volunteers versus paid employees. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:59:18 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Status can be self-made or it can be perceived to be endorsed politically, socially or morally.... #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:59:30 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | the starting point of my research career was studying homophobic bullying; homophobia is for many morally acceptable #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:00:20 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Thus they perceive themselves as being entitled to discriminate against LGBTs #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:00:43 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers I keep coming back to why they perceive their status to be high, low, etc. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:00:44 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers But that has changed, I hope! re homophobia #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:01:48 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I think bullying is part of a socio-politcal discourse and bullies derive status from their interpretation.... #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:02:21 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers By the way, it is past 1pm EST. Do you wish to continue or do another chat later in the year? I am fine with either. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:02:38 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | of what social and political leaders comment upon #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:02:39 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | For example, we have the Olympics in london and we are going to make all kids fitter, faster and stronger....legacy stuff #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:03:16 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Excellent point: our so-called role models form bounderies and shift limits daily! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:03:46 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | This is great for the kids who love sport, not so great for the kids who are not so good. How we articulate the value of sport #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:03:59 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Right, and the perception is that you cannot stay behind. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:04:22 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | ...2 will determine how kids respond to it. We might end up endorsing the bullying of the overwgiths slow kids #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:04:31 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers That includes the funding for school sports versus art/music! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:05:04 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | The perception is you model the acceptable norms - always. Bullying starts with norms and stereotypes #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:05:42 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers or the kids who just run to stay fit but dedicate time to art/reading/creating/music etc #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:05:52 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Absolutely, what a school values or a community values holds power over those who do not conform #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:06:26 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | RT @ian_rivers: The perception is you model the acceptable norms - always. Bullying starts with norms and stereotypes. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:06:32 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | And online, you can chose not to conform, but it holds its own dangers #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:07:47 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | RT @ian_rivers: Absolutely, what a school values or a community values holds power over those who do not conform. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:08:37 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Wow that hour passed very fast #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:09:42 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Yes, very fast hour! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:10:26 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers But the topic and the responding to each others tweets made it fly by. I find this a fascinating topic to explore. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:11:03 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | I think we managed to stray away from cyberbullying again but its worth trying to locate it in a context. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:11:42 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers I think we were reaching for the perimeters and those need to be understood as well. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:12:41 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Yep going to be speaking on a panel about cyberbullying in two weeks, will be interesting to see what others think #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:14:51 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers I'd love to hear those opinions so we just need to continue the topic in another chat! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:15:59 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Is that panel part of a conference? Links? #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:16:25 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Its part of the American Psychological Association Annual Convention in Orlando #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:17:15 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | http://t.co/43Nh04uk #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:18:19 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | Thanks for having me to chat again, I now have to return to some mundane domestic chores....Bye for now...Ian #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:21:04 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Thanks, will include that as well. And again, thank you so very much for your time! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:21:32 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ian_rivers Bye Ian and have a safe trip to Orlando! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:21:46 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | My pleasure #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:22:07 +0000 |
| ian_rivers | and thanks #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:22:12 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | I will post a recap of the chat later on DCC with the links Ian gave. If you have questions, comment below the recap. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:22:20 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Next week is a general chat with updates on a few cold cases that feature on DCC. #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:22:44 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Thanks all, signing off! #cclivechat | Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:23:31 +0000 |