Recap #cclivechat August 24, 2012

sum it up #cclivechatRecap #cclivechat August 24, 2012. Today, the Writing PIs joined me for a chat about their work, their books, and of course, famous cases.

Colleen Collins and Shaun Kaufman are co-owners of Highlands Investigations in Denver, Colorado. Their ebook How to Write a Dick: A Guide for Writing Fictional Sleuths from a Couple of Real-Life Sleuths is available on Kindle.

For those of you with in interest in the JonBenet Ramsey case, scroll down in the verbatim text for some exchange of idea between Colleen Collins, Shaun Kaufman, Joe Giacalone and I and why this case needs one more shot.

The next #cclivechat is on September 7. John Leake will discuss the case of Duncan MacPherson with us.

The verbatim thread is below.

Cheers!

Vidocq_CCIt is noon at the East Coast of the USA so time for another #cclivechat! My guests: the @writingpis! #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 15:59:53 +0000
Vidocq_CCThe @writingpis are Colleen Collins & Shaun Kaufman. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:00:44 +0000
Vidocq_CCThey write, they sleuth, they watch ... Colleen has written about 22 novels and 2 nonfiction books. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:01:25 +0000
Vidocq_CCShaun is a trial attorney, a former PI, and co-author of one nonfiction book. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:01:55 +0000
Vidocq_CCTogether, they run the blog Guns, Gams, and Gumshoes! http://t.co/nW7CEyXs #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:02:35 +0000
Vidocq_CCSo how did they get started? How do they combine being a PI with running a blog and writing books? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:03:16 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:03:46 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC they probably don't sleep much #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:04:33 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Hey Joe! So ... Grumpy Guns, Gams and Gunshoes! #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:05:37 +0000
writingpis#cclivechat Hi, we had computer/Internet problems this morning, but we're up and running again. Sorry we're late.Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:06:15 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis No problem, how are you two? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:07:00 +0000
writingpis#cclivechat Shaun had been attorney 18 years, retired, and was doing legal research. In 2003, Colleen suggested they start an agency.Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:10:07 +0000
writingpis#cclivechat We're doing well, thanks. We're on a new computer (slow) for this chat, but doing our best to sync up. Good morning, everyone.Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:11:14 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis When you started an agency, did you plan to handle only certain cases? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:11:54 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC #cclivechat We planned to primarily handle legal investigations, which evolved into domestic, surveillance & asset investigationsFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:13:54 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis That sounds busy so where do you find the time to write and keep up a blog? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:16:46 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC not just that they also write guest posts!
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Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Correct but I place that all under the header "writing." #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:19:14 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC #cclivechat Colleen's been publishing novels since '97, she's used to writing at all hours. Shaun's a multitasker extraordinaire.Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:20:13 +0000
jenniferjbland@writingpis You ever look at Background Records of what kind of Violent Offenders - etc. are right now on the streets? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:20:27 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC ;)~ #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:20:52 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad How is your book coming along, by the way? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:21:42 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis Tell us about one of your most favourite cases or book you wrote. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:22:11 +0000
jenniferjbland@Vidocq_CC @writingpis I think investigations should be done in BAD NEIGHBORHOODS - VICTIMS - MISSING PERSONS FOUND here - #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:22:40 +0000
writingpis@jenniferjbland Hi Jennifer, we don't research on an academic level. We research violent offenders if they play a role in a case #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:23:00 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC Wasn't sure if u were talking to us re book, but Colleen just turned in completed ms. last week (March 2013 release) #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:24:37 +0000
Vidocq_CC@jenniferjbland Sometimes people get killed in mansions or are found dead in castles. Crime happens everywhere. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:24:49 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis Tell us more about that book, please? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:25:26 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC A fav. case: Aiding father in taking his children from drug-addicted mother. Another: Finding a son abducted by cult #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:26:01 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC Colleen's book is a romance w/ PI heroine & lawyer hero (surprise!). Title: THE NEXT RIGHT THING, March 2013. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:27:06 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis I remember, you guest blogged about that on DCC. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:27:19 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC Yes, we wrote about the son who'd been abducted on DCC. Other children are still in that cult, covered by Dr. Phil... #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:28:26 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis What is your take on the Rebecca Zahau case: murder or suicide http://t.co/RU7oqaFg #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:28:29 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC show this past year. We were the agency who found the location of the cult, although that wasn't shared on Dr. Phil. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:28:57 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC RE: Rebecca Zahau, we are not familiar with this case. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:29:28 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis Maybe you know the case as Coronado mansion death? http://t.co/1bqNsk8L #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:31:36 +0000
Vidocq_CCok, tell me about a case you wish you could have covered. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:33:12 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC We just looked at story. From the 4 hemorrhages found beneath scalp, suicide is questionable. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:35:24 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis No fracture of the cervical vertebrae [neck] worries me if she hung herself or threw herself over the balcony. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:36:55 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC A case we wish we could have covered: Jon Benet Ramsey (we live near Boulder, CO) #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:36:56 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis What would you have done differently? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:37:58 +0000
Vidocq_CC@coldcasesquad Were you not also interested in the Ramsey case, Joe, to re-do it? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:39:08 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC Do you think that Zahau could have died from anoxia? We'll answer Ramsey question next. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:41:00 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC yes V, I did a post on the new evidence that was brought to light http://t.co/9uui4mkm #CCLiveChat I have my own opinionsFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:41:05 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis Maybe but how did she get herself hung? What was she standing on? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:42:19 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC Differences handling Ramsey case? Tried to invoke jurisdiction of FBI b/c locals lacked CSI resources #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:42:38 +0000
ColdCaseSquadIronically I mentioned that I would have like to look into the Ramsey case on the radio show I did too http://t.co/e1X3Ci40 #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:43:00 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad What made the marking if not a stun gun? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:43:23 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC It could have been made by a cooking utensil or a food temperature gauge-need a forensic tool expert to examine #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:44:52 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC Joe, ideas on what would have made marking? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:44:52 +0000
writingpis@ColdCaseSquad Doubt that Boulder police did kitchen utensil inventory. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:46:00 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Interesting! I think she was not murdered in the boiler room but placed there to keep her body warm. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:46:06 +0000
ColdCaseSquadCardinal rule in missing children/elderly cases-Search the entire house first before doing anything! #JonBenet #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:47:22 +0000
ColdCaseSquadRemember the note was written in the kitchen #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:47:57 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Right, and first officer on the scene should not take NO for an answer and search the house themselves. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:48:25 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC Crime scene investigation in this case was conducted by police force accustomed to date rape & drunk in public cases #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:48:31 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad How do you explain the pineapple? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:48:45 +0000
ColdCaseSquadThe police have the Emergency Exception to a search warrant in these cases #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:49:31 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad And they should use it instead of believing a homeowner that he searched the house. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:50:46 +0000
writingpis@ColdCaseSquad Within five years previous to Benet death, Colorado Supreme Court affirmed the Emergency Exception with corpses. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:51:31 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC Especially necessary to search home immediately when homeowner probably present during killing. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:52:11 +0000
ColdCaseSquadI think it had to do with inexperience more than anything else, unfortunately. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:52:36 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad I think so too. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:53:24 +0000
writingpis@ColdCaseSquad Inexperience, agreed, and fabulous defense lawyer & investigator work on behalf of parents. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:53:54 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis Are the parents completely cleared in your mind? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:54:59 +0000
ColdCaseSquadits also a learning experience for all law enforcement-like the OJ/Knox cases-learn from others missteps #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:55:25 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC Parents completely cleared in our minds? No. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:55:40 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis And the son? #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:56:40 +0000
writingpisLast famous homicide in Boulder before Benet was an on-campus killing in 1965. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:57:12 +0000
writingpis@Vidocq_CC Son not cleared in our minds, either. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:57:32 +0000
ColdCaseSquadAccording to the Boulder DA, the parents have been cleared and even issued an apology #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:57:49 +0000
ColdCaseSquadI must leave good chatting with @Vidocq_CC @Writingpis in case you missed their guest post here it is http://t.co/1C3C7DQu #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:59:01 +0000
writingpis@ColdCaseSquad Funny what $800,000 in fees will get you. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:59:20 +0000
writingpisGood to chat with you, Joe. Thanks, Vidster. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:59:49 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Bye Joe! #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 17:00:02 +0000
Vidocq_CCIf you have any questions for the @writingpis, leave them in the comment box below the recap. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 17:00:44 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis Thanks, Colleen & Shaun for being here. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 17:00:58 +0000
writingpisThank you, Vidster. #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 17:01:51 +0000
Vidocq_CC@writingpis Keep me posted on the new book! #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 17:02:42 +0000
Vidocq_CCRecap on DCC later on today or this weekend. Thanks to the @writingpis! Signing off! #cclivechatFri, 24 Aug 2012 17:07:44 +0000