#CClivechat recap March 16, 2012

sum it up #cclivechatIn today’s #CCLiveChat we paid attention to two cases. Both involved young women who were brutally slain. Both cases came to me via email and I thank those who have alerted me to them. You know who you are.

Case #1 Dana Lanell Stidham, found murdered in 1989 in Arkansas. Some links for this case: here, and here.

On September 16, 1989, almost two months after Dana was last seen, a hunter in Benton County, Arkansas came upon a shallow grave in a heavily wooded area. According to Sgt. Jenkins, skeletal remains were in the grave, and Dana Stidham’s clothes were found nearby.

Police ruled Dana’s death a homicide, but would not confirm the exact cause of death. “Certain details are withheld due to maintaining the integrity of the case,” Sgt. Jenkins told Dateline.

Case #2 Teresa Sue Hilt, found murdered in 1973 in Missouri. There is a memorial page in progress on Facebook.

Case: Teresa Sue Hilt was found murdered on August 4, 1973. She had been beaten, raped, stabbed, and strangled to death. Her remains were found in her off campus apartment in Maryville, Missouri. Tess was found face down on her bed under a neatly arranged sheet. She was stabbed in the chest and lower abdomen area. Her panty hose was tied around her neck and her wrists bound with shoelaces. A paring knife taken from her own kitchen was found cupped in her hand. Tess was attending Northwest Missouri State College. She was a music major and pursued a post graduate psychology degree.

Sgt. Wright was convinced that the killer was a woman because the scene had been cleaned up and Tess’ dead body was covered with a sheet. He saw it as something a woman would do. Covering Tess is a very personal act that could have been done by both a female or male killer. To me it indicates the killer knew their victim. Tess’ travel checks were found in the parking lot and her billfold was found near the rail tracks, both to the south of the apartment complex.

In both cases, finding information via newspapers is not easy. Not all newspapers have all their editions online. If you have any information or links for these cases, please leave them below in the comment section.

Yes, unbelievable but true. The DNA requests for William Thomas Zeigler have been denied March 12, 2012. Details will follow as soon as I have the full text.

The verbatim text is below.

Cheers!

Vidocq_CCAnd it is noon! That means it is time for some cold case updates with Joe & Vidster! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:00:18 +0000
Vidocq_CCFor those interested in a DNA-webinar, click here http://t.co/DdcLfzxQ #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:01:24 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC I'm here for a short time! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:04:46 +0000
Vidocq_CCWe have an arrest in the case of missing barista Samantha Koenig http://t.co/xMp0MxOe but she has not been found yet. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:05:00 +0000
ColdCaseSquadRT @Vidocq_CC: For those interested in a DNA-webinar, click here http://t.co/TvE4VqgW #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:05:07 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Hi Joe? If you have time can you explore this case: http://t.co/IefcoebE #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:05:51 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad and especially the comments here: http://t.co/1Bz31aHZ #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:06:15 +0000
ladysleuth69“@Vidocq_CC: So, now that we got out of the way, lemme see who's around! #cclivechat”// here 🙂Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:06:38 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ladysleuth69 Hello, Lady Sleuth! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:07:20 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ladysleuth69 Have you ever explored this case? http://t.co/IefcoebE #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:07:56 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC interesting case in Arkansas: Someone has done a lot of homework. Is there a contact person? #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:08:10 +0000
Bill5250RT @Vidocq_CC: So, now that we got out of the way, lemme see who's around! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:08:17 +0000
ColdCaseSquadRT @Vidocq_CC: @ladysleuth69 Have you ever explored this case? http://t.co/UWiEQtof #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:08:44 +0000
Bill5250RT @Vidocq_CC: So, now that we got out of the way, lemme see who's around! #cclivechat here for about 30 minutes!Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:08:58 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad More here http://t.co/E5jsOxV8 as for contact, got it via email. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:10:07 +0000
Vidocq_CC@Bill5250 Hi Bill! Nice new avatar! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:10:25 +0000
Vidocq_CCAnother I am hoping will gain more attention is this one: http://t.co/syXVRNR5 #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:11:13 +0000
ladysleuth69@Vidocq_CC just looked at it. Fascinating. Interesting that personal items were buried but body left in open. sternum taken? #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:11:45 +0000
Vidocq_CCTeresa Sue Hilt was murdered in Missouri in 1973. Her case is not online. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:11:58 +0000
Vidocq_CCThe newspapers that did cover her murder do not have all years editions online. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:12:32 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ladysleuth69 Not sure sternum taken by human or missing or taken by animals. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:13:01 +0000
ladysleuth69@Vidocq_CC right, obviously animal activity a factor in outdoor setting. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:13:40 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ladysleuth69 Correct and body too decomposed to determine more. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:14:43 +0000
ColdCaseSquadoutdoors anything can happen - re: animal activity
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Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:14:47 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Exactly but the case and esp the comments in those links I sent are interesting! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:15:42 +0000
Vidocq_CCIn other news, we lost DNA request for Zeigler http://t.co/Xl7mQ5JA #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:16:26 +0000
ladysleuth69@Vidocq_CC So rings & clothing buried near body, body left nude out in open (above ground), purse disposed of in open elsewhere. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:17:21 +0000
Bill5250@ColdCaseSquad #cclivechat was the body visible from a point on a road or turn off?Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:17:39 +0000
Vidocq_CC@Bill5250 Not sure, articles only mention squirrel hunter finding her. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:19:02 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@Bill5250 I'm not familiar with the case - just was introduced #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:19:20 +0000
Vidocq_CC@Bill5250 and then later a dog shows up with her wallet! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:20:15 +0000
ladysleuth69@Vidocq_CC @ColdCaseSquad @Bill5250 Great job on the case summary. Very intrigued. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:21:01 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@ladysleuth69 that was all @vidocq_cc I had no role - V does good work and deserves any credit-I've been a wall flower #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:22:18 +0000
ladysleuth69@ColdCaseSquad @vidocq_cc Got it 🙂 #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:23:38 +0000
Bill5250#cclivechat no DNA off the victims car? Tire tools, jack?Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:23:41 +0000
Bill5250#cclivechat anyone know if she is a relative of Judge Dan Stidham from Arkansas?Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:24:49 +0000
Vidocq_CC@Bill5250 Read these comments esp near the end and the next page http://t.co/1Bz31aHZ #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:25:18 +0000
ColdCaseSquadRT @Vidocq_CC: @Bill5250 Read these comments esp near the end and the next page http://t.co/qp8mTwm9 #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:28:02 +0000
Vidocq_CC@Bill5250 Not sure if she's a realtive. Just thought I'd bring this case up. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:28:07 +0000
Vidocq_CCIf you know what the evidence against Elais is, lemme know http://t.co/XHfFJYWm murders Keith Combs & Eugene Ellis #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:29:56 +0000
Vidocq_CCIf you read about Teresa Sue Hilt, do you agree the killer could be a woman? http://t.co/syXVRNR5 #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:32:51 +0000
firstforensic3@TrickyCase @Vidocq_CC @fpsociety when/where is it? #cclivechat (hello all by the way!)Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:33:40 +0000
ColdCaseSquadHave you read the disturbing Wisconsin case of a murdered RC Priest? http://t.co/BwyvD37X Father Kunz #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:34:19 +0000
SamuraiKnitter@Vidocq_CC Could be, but if they've that little to go on, they shouldn't narrow the field yet. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:35:24 +0000
Vidocq_CC@firstforensic3 Which one? Dana is from 1989, Teresa from 1973. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:35:37 +0000
ColdCaseSquadI have to bid you all adieu #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:35:38 +0000
Vidocq_CCRT @ColdCaseSquad: Have you read the disturbing Wisconsin case of a murdered RC Priest? http://t.co/ezVSiURw Father Kunz #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:35:49 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad See you, Joe, take care! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:36:33 +0000
Vidocq_CC@SamuraiKnitter Hi Julie, not sure why that cop thinks so. Panty tied around her neck ... stabbing wounds #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:37:26 +0000
SamuraiKnitter@Vidocq_CC Profiling is great and all, no doubt, but it's not always right. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:38:21 +0000
SamuraiKnitter@Vidocq_CC Of course there may be more information we don't have, I wouldn't rule out that possibility either. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:38:44 +0000
roserandelRT @Vidocq_CC: If you read about Teresa Sue Hilt, do you agree the killer could be a woman? http://t.co/syXVRNR5 #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:39:19 +0000
roserandelRT @ColdCaseSquad: RT @Vidocq_CC: @Bill5250 Read these comments esp near the end and the next page http://t.co/qp8mTwm9 #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:39:42 +0000
Vidocq_CC@SamuraiKnitter Correct. Also in this case, not much to be found online since newspapers do not have 70s uploaded online. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:39:49 +0000
roserandelRT @Vidocq_CC: In other news, we lost DNA request for Zeigler http://t.co/Xl7mQ5JA #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:39:59 +0000
roserandelRT @Vidocq_CC: @ColdCaseSquad Exactly but the case and esp the comments in those links I sent are interesting! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:40:09 +0000
Vidocq_CC@roserandel Hi Rose, thanks for the RT! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:40:14 +0000
roserandelRT @Vidocq_CC: Teresa Sue Hilt was murdered in Missouri in 1973. Her case is not online. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:40:31 +0000
roserandelRT @Vidocq_CC: Another I am hoping will gain more attention is this one: http://t.co/syXVRNR5 #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:40:43 +0000
roserandelRT @ColdCaseSquad: RT @Vidocq_CC: @ladysleuth69 Have you ever explored this case? http://t.co/UWiEQtof #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:41:04 +0000
roserandelRT @ColdCaseSquad: @Vidocq_CC interesting case in Arkansas: Someone has done a lot of homework. Is there a contact person? #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:41:13 +0000
roserandelRT @Vidocq_CC: @ColdCaseSquad Hi Joe? If you have time can you explore this case: http://t.co/IefcoebE #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:41:31 +0000
roserandelRT @ColdCaseSquad: RT @Vidocq_CC: For those interested in a DNA-webinar, click here http://t.co/TvE4VqgW #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:41:40 +0000
roserandelRT @Vidocq_CC: No clue what #cclivechat is? Check here http://t.co/Gf2SihygFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:42:08 +0000
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firstforensic3@Vidocq_CC sorry, my fault crossed wires. I meant the fingerprint meeting. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:43:14 +0000
ColdCaseSquadI have to bid you all an adieu - keep on doing good work-I know families appreciate it #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:43:51 +0000
Bill5250@ColdCaseSquad #cclivechat me too...gotta run and get cleaned up for work...have a good one everyone!Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:45:38 +0000
Vidocq_CCThis is the only newspaper article http://t.co/sYoK3j2p in left margin #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:47:33 +0000
Vidocq_CC@Bill5250 Bye, Bill! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:48:34 +0000
Vidocq_CCJust in case you want some homework, digg into the cases of Teresa and Dana! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:48:58 +0000
Vidocq_CCIf you follow the murder trials for Combs & Ellis, I still don't know what the evidence against Elias is. Chavez is DNA. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:50:07 +0000
ladysleuth69@Vidocq_CC @coldcasesquad @bill5250 Appreciate so much chance to chat! Must run. Have a great afternoon! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:50:58 +0000
SamuraiKnitter@Vidocq_CC If neatness is the only criteria for thinking it's a female killer, they need to reassess. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:51:30 +0000
LilacLounge@Vidocq_CC I have missed #cclivechat! Have you put your clocks forward over there in the US already? I'll be checking the recap :/Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:52:02 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ladysleuth69 Bye, Virginia! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:52:23 +0000
SamuraiKnitter@Vidocq_CC Says they looked at the boyfriend, so at least they weren't ONLY looking at women. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:52:24 +0000
Vidocq_CC@SamuraiKnitter Agreed! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:52:32 +0000
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge YES, we are on daylight saving time! OMG, I should have known! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:52:56 +0000
SamuraiKnitter@Vidocq_CC Call me crazy, but the body being staged, knife from on scene, etc, anyone look for a serial, ever? #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:53:08 +0000
Vidocq_CCBefore we go a plug for @suzieivy's new book: http://t.co/5B2NE5fE #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:53:23 +0000
SamuraiKnitter@Vidocq_CC I know, not everything's a serial killer, not even CLOSE, but the way the body was left... seems weird. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:53:37 +0000
Vidocq_CC@SamuraiKnitter But then we need to tie Teresa (age, gender, method, etc) to other victims in the area. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:54:09 +0000
roserandelRT @Vidocq_CC: Just in case you want some homework, digg into the cases of Teresa and Dana! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:54:38 +0000
roserandelRT @ColdCaseSquad: I have to bid you all an adieu - keep on doing good work-I know families appreciate it #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:54:51 +0000
SamuraiKnitter@Vidocq_CC Right. And I know they often didn't look at stuff like that, back in the 70s. Wonder if they have, since? #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:54:55 +0000
LilacLounge@Vidocq_CC no prob! I should've checked! Looks like it was a good one though 🙂 #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:55:58 +0000
Vidocq_CCFour minutes to go, folks. Anything cold case related that you simply must get off your chest? Now's your chance! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:56:39 +0000
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge Predominantly 2 cases: Dana(1989) and Teresa(1973) and some swirly things. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:57:47 +0000
LilacLounge“@Vidocq_CC: Before we go a plug for @suzieivy's new book: http://t.co/I1ePQuVc #cclivechat” Suzy is it available in other formats?Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:57:56 +0000
roserandelRT @Vidocq_CC: Four minutes to go, folks. Anything cold case related that you simply must get off your chest? Now's your chance! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:58:04 +0000
roserandelRT @Vidocq_CC: @LilacLounge Predominantly 2 cases: Dana(1989) and Teresa(1973) and some swirly things. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:58:46 +0000
Vidocq_CCRecap as usual later on DCC. Stay tuned for my mini blog tour in April! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:59:02 +0000
LilacLounge@Vidocq_CC ok. Will check the links in the recap. (swirly things?!) 🙂 #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:59:29 +0000
Vidocq_CCMore details as to why Judge Whitehead denies Zeigler further DNA testing will follow as soon as I have the full text. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 16:59:34 +0000
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge LOL, yeah ... kidding! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 17:00:47 +0000
TheRoadToMyselfRT @Vidocq_CC: Four minutes to go, folks. Anything cold case related that you simply must get off your chest? Now's your chance! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 17:01:24 +0000
Vidocq_CCThanks for chatting and pls keep the victims in your thoughts. Mull over their cases and maybe you see something we missed. #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 17:01:33 +0000
Vidocq_CCOK, signing off to write recap! Thanks, all! #cclivechatFri, 16 Mar 2012 17:02:29 +0000

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