Recap #cclivechat July 27, 2012

sum it up #cclivechatA recap of an interesting #cclivechat, folks. We have a slate of court dates in cold cases:

Ryan Guitron: first degree murder verdict against Vencil Ash. He will be sentenced on Aug 21. His girlfriend Kelly Meehan is awaiting trial and has a case status hearing in Aug 2012.

John Heath is due back in court on Sept. 7, 2012 in the murder of his wife Elizabeth Heath.

A suspect is arrested in the cold case of  Robert Henderson and he will go to trial in September 2012.

Richard Lapointe is still awaiting a decision by the Connecticut Appellate Court, see the clerk watch on my home page.

Trey Noah‘s case is still on hold. Two suspects were arrested and released on bail. We are awaiting an appeal before the trial can really start.

Christian Gerhartsreiter’s trial will take place in Jan 2013 in the John Sohus’ death, Linda is still missing.

A motion for a new trial in the case of Zeigler was filed. The state’s motion to dismiss was DENIED! Zeigler has been interviewed by a movie producer from Vancouver. Kindly note my concerns about the latest developments re Mr. Foster at the end of the post here.

News too in the cold case of Karen Caughlin: there is a new case manager. Karen’s sister Kathy is organizing a protest on August 18 to draw attention to her sister’s case. On Aug 17, we will dedicate #cclivechat to Karen Caughlin.

Joe Giacalone introduced the Dana Stidham case and we had a good exchange of information. However, it needs further exploring with documentation. In particular, I’d like to see Dana’s autopsy report, conclusive evidence why some people were eliminated as suspects, and as Joe said, see what kind of traffic stops were made during the day in that area. It just might shed a light on who was around watching.

Next week, Virginia Braden is with us to discuss her work. Last, Joe and I want to schedule a #cclivechat about the cold case of JonBenet Ramsey so stay tuned for that!

The verbatim thread from today is below.

Cheers, V

Vidocq_CCIt is noon on the USA East Coast and that means it is time for another #cclivechat! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:00:00 +0000
msashton_writer#cclivechat - I made it.Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:00:14 +0000
Vidocq_CCUpdates in cold cases, court dates and an analysis of the Stidham case, join us! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:00:32 +0000
msashton_writerRT @Vidocq_CC: Updates in cold cases, court dates and an analysis of the Stidham case, join us! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:01:04 +0000
Vidocq_CC1st degree murder verdict against Ash, sentencing on Aug 21. Meehan awaiting trial, status hearing in Aug re Ryan Guitron #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:01:08 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@msashton_writer hey Marguerite - what's up first V?
Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:01:12 +0000
Vidocq_CCRyan Guitron's case is here #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:01:25 +0000
ColdCaseSquadRT @Vidocq_CC: Ryan Guitrons case is here #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:02:00 +0000
Vidocq_CCJohn Heath due back in court on Sept. 7, 2012 re Elizabeth Heath #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:02:18 +0000
Vidocq_CCSuspect arrested re Robert Henderson, going to trial September 2012 #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:03:03 +0000
Vidocq_CCRichard Lapointe still awaiting decision by CT Appellate Court #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:03:40 +0000
Vidocq_CCTrey Noah's case still on hold, two suspects arrested, awaiting trial #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:04:25 +0000
Vidocq_CCGerhartsreiter trial Jan 2013 in John Sohus’ death, Linda is still missing #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:04:56 +0000
Vidocq_CCMotion for new trial re Zeigler State's motion to dismiss DENIED! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:05:29 +0000
Vidocq_CCAnd we have news re Karen Caughlin #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:06:13 +0000
ColdCaseSquadRT @Vidocq_CC: And we have news re Karen Caughlin #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:06:59 +0000
bluedog89@Vidocq_CC Wonderful news re: Zeigler #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:07:14 +0000
Vidocq_CCKaren Caughlin's sister is organizing a protest Aug 18 to draw attention to her sister's case #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:07:19 +0000
Vidocq_CCOn Aug 17 we will dedicate #cclivechat to Karen Caughlin's case and go over our analyses. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:08:07 +0000
Vidocq_CCZeigler has been interviewed by the movie producer from Vancouver and is hopeful for a new trial #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:09:23 +0000
ColdCaseSquadIt's good to be back to being myself-lots of new updates, pages and look on the #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:09:40 +0000
Vidocq_CCPls note my concerns with the latest developments re Zeigler We cannot just assume RF is responsible! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:10:20 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Yes, good to have you back, lots going on in cold cases and that gives us hope to solve other cases! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:11:16 +0000
Vidocq_CCThose are my court updates, folks. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:11:42 +0000
ColdCaseSquadFor those following along the Link to the Dana Stidham case @jenniferjbland #crime #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:12:25 +0000
Vidocq_CCI'd be interested to hear from others how they view the latest developments re Zeigler (brady v maryland) #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:12:28 +0000
Vidocq_CCJoe, can you start with an intro in Dana Stidham's case? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:12:52 +0000
Vidocq_CC@bluedog89 Thanks, good to see you here again! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:13:27 +0000
Vidocq_CCPrevious chat where we discussed the Stidham case here #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:14:28 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad And the floor is yours! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:15:07 +0000
ColdCaseSquadDana was an 18yo girl from Arkansas - Gravette High school - excellent student and sister #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:15:32 +0000
ColdCaseSquadThis past Wednesday marked the 23 anniversary of her disappearance and subsequent murder investigations #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:16:18 +0000
ColdCaseSquadOn 7/25/89 Dana left her home to run some errands - but never returned home - her brother called police #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:18:09 +0000
ColdCaseSquadDana's Dodge Omni was found on the side of the road - low rear tire - only piece of evidence discovered a receipt 3:17PM #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:19:12 +0000
Bill5250@ColdCaseSquad was Dana any relation to now Judge Dan Stidham? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:20:04 +0000
ColdCaseSquad2 months later, Dana's body was found in a shallow grave - her belongings were discovered along the highway much later #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:20:21 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@Bill5250 Hi Bill unknown if there is a relation-maybe someone can shed some light on that-are you thinking motive? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:21:13 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@jenniferjbland may known if there is a relationship to Judge Stidham #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:23:13 +0000
Vidocq_CC@Bill5250 Not sure, tried to find info but nothing so far. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:23:51 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Just like Karen Caughlin, shallow grave and belongings along highway found later #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:24:38 +0000
Vidocq_CC@miriamsaid Did you have a chance to compare Dana's case to the other one I sent you, Miri? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:26:03 +0000
ColdCaseSquadI was alerted to another case-same area- by @tonys72120 on Amanda Tussing #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:26:26 +0000
Bill5250@Vidocq_CC @ColdCaseSquad M.E. in the case? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:26:41 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Joe, what similarities do you see with Amanda's case? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:26:59 +0000
msashton_writer@ColdCaseSquad ~ Is there anything that would point to her murder being random or if she was stalked? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:27:08 +0000
LilacLoungeAfternoon livechat people! Just made it for the last half hour 🙂 #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:27:43 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@msashton_writer here is the interesting twist-a former student stole her headstone-convicted of it #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:28:08 +0000
msashton_writer#cclivechat ~ I'm baffled by the stolen gravestone. @ColdcasesquadFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:29:14 +0000
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge Awesome, Hi Sue!!! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:29:18 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@LilacLounge hey Sue we're talking about the Dana Stidham Case #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:29:27 +0000
ColdCaseSquadGravestone thief also was 'driving around' at the time of Dana's disappearance but police can't pinpoint any evidence #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:30:24 +0000
msashton_writer@ColdCaseSquad ~ makes one wonder if there is a link #cclivechat. We may never know. He's not talking.Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:31:03 +0000
LilacLounge@Vidocq_CC @ColdCaseSquad Hi guys! I'm catching up on my reading in a hurry... 🙂 #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:31:07 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC similarities between Stidham and Tussing exist-same area, a highway, young girl, abandon car etc. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:31:56 +0000
msashton_writer@LilacLounge ~ Hello, Sue. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:32:26 +0000
Bill5250#cclivechat was there any DNA or samples of anything biological, prints on car, any evidence whatsoever. Hence why I asked who the M.E. wasFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:33:46 +0000
LilacLounge@msashton_writer Hi Marguerite 🙂 #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:34:09 +0000
ColdCaseSquadUnknown if Tussing had a low tire-maybe a ruse and then a "good Samaritan" comes along #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:34:25 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@Bill5250 no Bill - No DNA to speak of-Police weren't attuned to it as you know back then so crime scenes were not like today #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:35:13 +0000
Vidocq_CC@jenniferjbland Pls use hashtag #cclivechat so the others can find your tweets, we use tweetchat dot comFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:35:14 +0000
LilacLounge@ColdCaseSquad Sorry if someone asked this already. Was there any sign that Dana tried to change her tyre? Where was the spare? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:35:34 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Was the squirrel hunter been cleared? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:36:00 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@LilacLounge no indication - no trunk open, etc. I think someone asked her if she needed a lift #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:36:40 +0000
Vidocq_CC@jenniferjbland Pls send those tweets again with the hashtag, lots of folks following and interested! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:36:52 +0000
ColdCaseSquadThe hunter is not a suspect in the case #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:36:59 +0000
LilacLounge@ColdCaseSquad Sounds feasible. I just wondered if someone might have seen her attempting to change the wheel... #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:37:54 +0000
ColdCaseSquadThe author of the post on Stidham is @jenniferjbland welcome!! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:38:02 +0000
Vidocq_CC@jenniferjbland please use the hashtag #cclivechat, the others cannot see your tweets and thus no response/discussion of your information!Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:38:28 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Can you pls tell her to use the hashtag? I did now about three times. The others cannot see those tweets. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:39:14 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@JenniferJBland after your tweet add this #cclivechat #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:40:12 +0000
Bill5250#cclivechat probably won't be any personal police documentation from individual officers because they may not have kept daily notebooks.Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:40:36 +0000
Vidocq_CC@jenniferjbland @ColdCaseSquad Hashtag = #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:41:18 +0000
Vidocq_CC@Bill5250 Maybe not, but there might be reporters from back then who still have notebooks with thoughts, doubts, etc. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:42:28 +0000
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge Good thought, I have not been able to find many new details other than the links we exchanged in the previous chat #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:43:11 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@Bill5250 what be interesting is what summons were issued or car stops on that day-may get lucky if good records kept #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:43:24 +0000
jenniferjbland@ColdCaseSquad @Bill5250 The area is Bella Vista sub-station police department - they have their own chief- #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:44:56 +0000
LilacLoungeJust had a peek at @jenniferjbland's pre-hashtag tweets. She raises the question of evidence remaining on Dana's remains.. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:46:50 +0000
LilacLounge@jenniferjbland It's an interesting thought. What type of evidence did you have in mind on those remains? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:47:36 +0000
msashton_writerRT @jenniferjbland: @msashton_writer @Coldcasesquad I believe this was an Acted Out part of this mans grief - he lives in #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:47:49 +0000
jenniferjbland@ColdCaseSquad @Bill5250 Some of the drug issues from Missouri were not far from Dana's body found, her best friend was on METH #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:47:50 +0000
Bill5250#cclivechat I remember the poor crime scene management and errors of the M.E. from the WM3 case ..found out police had not used notebooksFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:47:51 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@jenniferjbland you got it welcome to the chat - we are here because of your research and post #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:48:34 +0000
jenniferjbland@msashton_writer @ColdCaseSquad Dana was friends with a girl who died several years ago - health problems (Becky Littlefield) - #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:49:18 +0000
msashton_writerRT "@jenniferjbland: @msashton_writer @Coldcasesquad .... nearby Missouri or Oklahoma -" #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:49:21 +0000
ColdCaseSquadLE mindset about crime scenes, contamination and forensics have changed everything about them #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:49:31 +0000
Vidocq_CC@jenniferjbland Have others ever seen Dana use drugs? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:49:32 +0000
msashton_writer"@jenniferjbland: @msashton_writer @ColdCaseSquad The theif McMillan - the courts in Arkansas are first to get a Probable Cause..#cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:50:03 +0000
jenniferjbland@Vidocq_CC @Bill5250 This County began having the METH problems show up by police in around 1992 - A girl from Jane, Missouri #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:50:48 +0000
Bill5250@jenniferjbland was she related to the current Judge Dan Stidham? Do you know who the M.E. was at the state crime lab? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:51:35 +0000
jenniferjbland@ColdCaseSquad @Bill5250 said she saw Dana that day in a truck with two guys and Dana waved to her the area where Dana was found #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:51:45 +0000
jenniferjbland@ColdCaseSquad @Bill5250 This area where Dana was found is hunting area - there is also a place where some dump trash illegally #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:52:29 +0000
jenniferjbland@ColdCaseSquad @Bill5250 this is a bar that some say she met a cop from bella vista when she was 16-18 #cclivechat, 27 Jul 2012 16:54:19 +0000
Vidocq_CCJust an organizational point: it is almost 1pm EST. Do we want to go into over-time? If so, raise virtual hands! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:55:07 +0000
jenniferjbland@Vidocq_CC @LilacLounge This area is also where the NOEL BANK robbery-murder of Dan Short in 1989 #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:55:27 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC I'm not going to be able to - please continue-fascinating discussion-See what you started @jenniferjbland 😉 #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:56:39 +0000
jenniferjbland@Vidocq_CC No Dana didn't drugs, no drink, no smoke, no nothing, that is why some thing her Best Friend on drugs - wrong people #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:57:18 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad OK, if you have any thoughts post them later as a comment below the recap. Good to see you here again! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:57:46 +0000
ColdCaseSquadShameless plug: I also did a post on JonBenet Ramsey we can discuss on another future addition of #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:57:59 +0000
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC good to be back in the saddle again! Thanks V! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:58:33 +0000
Vidocq_CC@jenniferjbland if I understand you correctly, Dana hung out with the wrong people? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:58:39 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Shameless! Yes, we can! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:58:59 +0000
msashton_writer@ColdCaseSquad ~ I want to be there for that one. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:59:27 +0000
jenniferjbland@LilacLounge Well maybe fibers-within her own hair fibers - they might have a file with something-they don't say #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:59:28 +0000
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad welcome, schedule on my homepage so lemme know what date you wish to reserve for JonBenet. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 16:59:29 +0000
Vidocq_CC@msashton_writer I have my own thoughts on JonBenet as well but have not had the time to post so we must schedule that one! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:00:29 +0000
jenniferjbland@Vidocq_CC Her best friend Becky Littlefield did - some were dealers in Meth from Tyler, Texas an ex-offender told me #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:00:46 +0000
Vidocq_CC@jenniferjbland But are you sure fibers were found? Do you have an autopsy report from Dana? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:01:06 +0000
jenniferjbland@Vidocq_CC @msashton_writer That ransom letter is the key to the solving crime of JonBenet - sexual abuse may be 2 part crime #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:02:12 +0000
Vidocq_CC@Bill5250 @jenniferjbland Hashtag! But very good point. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:02:24 +0000
msashton_writer@Vidocq_CC ~ yes, please. I lived in CO at the time. Look forward to it. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:02:29 +0000
Vidocq_CCIt is 1pm EST so we are getting to the close of this cold case live chat #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:03:16 +0000
Vidocq_CCI will get together with @coldcasesquad to pick a date to explore JonBenet. Disagree on the ransom note. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:03:54 +0000
jenniferjbland@Vidocq_CC I don't know if anything was found - they don't say (police), coroner was a drunk who let the files get wet/ruined #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:03:54 +0000
Vidocq_CCThanks all for participating, I will post a recap on DCC later today. Any thoughts can go in the comment box below the post. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:04:31 +0000
msashton_writer@jenniferjbland ~ Past crime scenes aren't like they are today and one would think something was left behind. Maybe overlooked. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:04:47 +0000
Vidocq_CCMy guest next week is @ladysleuth69 who will discuss her life and work as a sleuth with us! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:05:26 +0000
Vidocq_CC@msashton_writer Agreed, Marguerite! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:05:47 +0000
jenniferjbland@LilacLounge I don't think at that time 1989 they knew very much (no experience) no experts were called in I am sure of #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:06:07 +0000
Vidocq_CC@jenniferjbland How do you know the coroner was drunk? #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:06:10 +0000
Bill5250@jenniferjbland @Vidocq_CC shaking my head over that...damn! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:06:21 +0000
msashton_writer@Vidocq_CC ~ Aw. Thanks for hosting V. Thanks everyone for the discussion. #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:06:31 +0000
LilacLounge@Vidocq_CC @ladysleuth69 I shall look forward to that one! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:06:53 +0000
Vidocq_CC@Bill5250 ROFLMAO! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:07:02 +0000
Vidocq_CC@msashton_writer Welcome, good to see you becoming a regular! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:07:16 +0000
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge Me too, check her website, lots of interesting cases! #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:07:36 +0000
Bill5250#cclivechat @jenniferjbland very possible she threatened to turn in her friends Meth dealer and she got killed for it..any ID on dealer?Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:07:44 +0000
Vidocq_CCTime to recap so signing off. See you next week for #cclivechatFri, 27 Jul 2012 17:08:01 +0000